Jelous male

Posted by Lizelle
Feb 3, 2010
Hi; I`ve got 2 promblems:
1.Why does my 3 month old female Doberman always P when she greets me (with excitement) when I get home from work or let her in in the morning.How do I stop it.
2.My mother has an 9 year old male poodle X.Since baby time when my mother leaves them alone (he has 2 sisters) at home he P in the house.Later on he started to do in on my dads side of the bed when the door is open and now he started doing in on my dads chair.When she has guests he also does it on the males side of the bed.We have them since birth.It just gets worse.He`s sterilized.He has never been abuse that we know of.He also knibble on clothes or things as if he is nervous.Why is he doing it-we think he jelous of other men.Could someone maybe give me advise on how to stop it-or is to late now.

Thank you

Is there realy no advise or at least maybe a reason for him doing this?
Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Feb 7, 2010
Hi Lizelle,

I understand it is frustrating to see your dog wetting the floor when you greet her. I don't know why but excitement urination happens a more in female puppies. I think it will happen less and less as your puppy builds her confidence. In order to help her become more confident dog, it will be a good idea to take some obedience training with her. This will also help you to become a confident owner that she can look up to and to establish a trustful relashionship between you and your puppy.

Another thing you might want to do is to make your greetings less exciting as possible. It will be hard for you because your puppy must be really cute and you also are excited to see her especially when coming home after a long day. Your puppy is not urinating intentionally. She just cannot hold it when excited so making her less excited will help her hold the urination. Try to greet her with really low key, without eye contact, no fussing.

I am sorry but I don't have an answer to your question #2.

I hope your Doberman puppy will grow to be a confident dog.
Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Feb 8, 2010
Hi Lizelle again,

I thought about your question #2 and I think it is a territorial issue. I think your mom's male poodle mix is actually marking his territory. He can tell your dad and any male guests' sex by their smell (hormone) and I think that's why he only pees on their sides of the beds or chairs.

What you can do is, of course, to close the bedroom doors but it is not "correcting" his behavior. In order to understand why he does that, I would like to ask you a couple of questions:

1) what is his relationship with your daddy in general?
2) when did he start doing this?
3) what do you, your mom or your dad do when you guys find out he peed on the bed?
4) is he territorial outside of your home? In other words, does he mark a lot on his walk, or in your yard?

I hope somebody else can give you some advise too.
Posted by Lizelle
Feb 9, 2010
Thanx for advise on no 1.
My small dog - 9 years and also female - sometimes snaps at my puppy and then she also makes a splash of pee.Would it affect her in a wrong way?The older one has always been the "bitch" of the house and every one accepted it but it`s the first time in 15 years that I have my OWN dog and I would really want to raise her to be a good/nice dog.The other 5 I`ve had were all rescue dogs and I never had a problem with one of them.

Answers on no 2.
1.My dads just the food supplier.He won`t hurt them but he`s jusut not the type to cuddle or show love.

2.He started to get worse since my mother took in my brothrs 2 dogs.They live in a flat and neighbours complained about the barking.My dad would sometimes give more attention to them - like a treat or a pat - to them because they are the "disadvantage" ones.

3.We never could do anything because you never catch him red handed doing it.But you can see the guilty look on his face and before you discover it he avoids that place.So; he actually knows he`s doing something wrong.

4.When he goes outside all of them would mark the whole yard.

Maybe we just spoiled them to much because they were the first (by accident - my dads fault) puppies of my moms poodle X at the age of 11 and it`s now to late to do anything about it.

Thank you for your time.
Posted by kjd
Feb 9, 2010
Hi, Lizelle.

I assume it is the puppy giving the splash of urine when being snapped at by the older dog? She is simply signaling her submission.

From your answers to MaxHollyNoah, it definitely sounds like your dog is marking his territory! With these two newcomers, he is desperately trying to show this is HIS home.

I'm not sure what MaxHollyNoah would suggest, but it would certainly help if your father showed more attention to the first dog and far less attention to the newcomers.

BTW, when you say your father is the food supplier, do you mean he feeds the dogs or just buys the food?

I know what you mean about raising a puppy of your own. What is her name? She's going to have quite a life with all those other dogs!

Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Feb 9, 2010
:confused:Help me get this straight

So, your mom's poodle X had puppies at the age of 11 due to a lack of supervision about 9 years ago. Your family kept 4 puppies (1 male and 3 female) and the male is your mom's dog now. You have a female and your brother once took 2 females but they came back to your house due to their barking problem.

You also have a 3 mos old female doberman puppy. So, there are 5 dogs altogether in your household and all the poodle Xs are related except for the doberman puppy.

Am I correct?

If that is the case, I understand how you feel about raising your deberman to be a very nice companion of yours. In fact you admitted that you guys have spoiled your poodle Xs.

I would encourage you to read good books about how to raise puppies. "Perfect Puppy" by Gwen Bailey is a good book to have around you. Those books should tell you how to deal with submission and excitement urination problems as well. Dogs and puppies need to learn how to live nicely with people, you can not just give them love, love, love. They need clear house rules and boundaries from very young age. As I said before, enroll your puppy at an obedience class. She needs to meet other dogs too. Don't assume that she gets enough socialization because you have so many dogs inhouse.

As for the older poodle Xs. You can still train them but it is necessary that you, your mom and dad be committed to each behavior correction and all of you should be firm and consistant. Each behavior should be addressed separately but basic obedience training is always helpful. Good luck
Posted by Lizelle
Feb 10, 2010
sorry-you must be very confused and its all my fault.It`s two seperate households; we are cross the street from one another.The puppy-Sasha-is mine and the small poodle x female Ragel of 9 years.
My mothers poodle x got 3 puppies at age 11-she kept the male(the problem) and one female-I took the other female (above).We didn`t have the heart to give them away.
My brothers 2 dog are a dachshund and dachshund/pug.
My dad only buys the food and will never SHOW love.His way of showing it is by buying food/treats and letting them sleep with him.
My brothers 2 dogs sleeps on his side of the bed on the floor and the other 2 on the bed.
I think we spoiled them to much and have to live with it.
Except for my brothers dogs-these 3 miricale dogs won`t let anyone -friend or stranger get near us or them -they will bark and bite their feet.

Thats why I`m trying to raise this puppy to be good and don`t want to let things go wrong while she`s young-I have to do things the right way from the start.On the 8th she was 3 months and she knows about sit/thank you before getting her food and not to grab the other dogs food (when I`m watching her.)I`m still struggleing with the leash.I stopped walking round the block an started in the yard with the random walking - I`ts only for a few day now and I have to be patient.The head collar I got is still to bigg and can`t adjust.

Posted by kjd
Feb 10, 2010

Do you have any control of the situation in your parents' household? If you make suggestions that require them to change, will they try them? I know I've never been able to get a relative to change! Sometimes, all we can do is make sure someone else's dogs react properly to us.

As for the head collar: did you get it online or in a store? Most stores should be willing to trade it for the correct size.

Posted by MaxHollyNoah
Feb 10, 2010
Hi Lizelle,

I am sorry to hear about all the problems your parents' and your brother's dogs have. Please remember that none of the problems should be blamed to the dogs. They all came from not providing necessary trainings to the dogs. I am so pleased to hear that you are right on top of your doberman's training and I would like to help you.

First of all, I really want you to read a book on raising puppies. There are a lot of things you need to learn on both physical and mental developments of puppies, besides trainings.

For example, socializing your puppy to both people (all kinds of people, men and women, young and old, with glasses and caps, in uniforms, etc.) and other dogs/puppies. Your pup is in a very critical stage for socialization. Enrolling her in a puppy class is a wonderful idea. If you don't give them necessary trainings and guidance, dogs will stay dogs that you will find difficult to live with. They are totally capable and willing to adjust in our living environment so please consider YOU learning how to train your dog first.